Farms: Duck Hunting Shotgun Proven To Be more Dangerous Than A Huldra AR-15
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Joe Biden makes our case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wcxVovpJdi8 Note To Viewer: The point of the shotgun vs. modern sporting rifle demonstration is in the (so called "gun-free") environments these mass shooting have taken place, the 12-gauge shotgun is more lethal than a MSR. We were not trying to create a debate around shot sizes, effective long-range distances, choke tubes, etc. A skilled and practiced sportsman can feed a shotgun magazine tube somewhat comparably to a boxed magazine change. The quick feeding of the tube of my Remington 1100 20-gauge was a skill that I mastered at 15. The 12-gauge shogun is certainly effective for home defense, however it is by its very design a scattergun and may not be suitable for a situation where a precision shot is called for, and thus is not my preferred choice to deal with a defensive situation. The entire point literally spelled out in black and white at the end of the video is that one gun is not morally superior to another and trashing our Constitutional rights is counter productive to ensuring our children's safety. The best and only way to protect our children is to do just that, protect them! This is a video letter to Minnesota Congressman Rick Nolan, and Senators Amy Klobucher, and Al Franken. This video proves that a duck hunting shotgun is more destructive and lethal than a Huldra AR-15 modern sporting rifle.
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so stupid
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270 million that you know of, how many more that are stolen or un registered by the non-law abiding citizens
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your a idiot
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y are you guys using buck shot if say duck hunting use some steal not oo buck
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You guys are putting a 12 gauge shotgun against a small caliber rifle that's why putting a 45 against a 50 caliber rifle that's going to prove nothing a piece of paper proves nothing if you put in a 770 caliber rifle in shoot a deer with it it's going to leave a bigger hole in the deer then a 12 gauge with 00 buck would
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this guy doesn't even know what the fuck a "duck gun is called" I know it's a Remington 1100 that actually isn't supposed to do duck hunting and a AR15 can shoot a lot fast the girl is like taking a crap in between each shot he doesn't know shit!
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This is very far from a controlled experiment, and obviously you are for gun control you were constantly using derogatory terms toward "The Duck Hunting Shotgun."
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And the lady with the ar-15 was shooting super slow
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That stuff is also buckshot
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wow, I read these posts and I see how some people really are touched. Do most of you know what AR in AR-15 stands for? And it's not assault rifle.. It's Eugene stoner's automatic rifle.. As civilians without a class 3 stamp for it you can only get a sporters/sporting rifle, designed after the AR-15.. It has major key components changed out.. But enough of that.. OH.... another thing...... Have you ever reloaded an 10,20,30 round mag?? takes longer then an extended tube shotgun.......So in all respects any weapon or tool as they really are in the right hands is deadly.. it's the idiots behind them that make them dangerous! If anyone spent 5 min. looking up shotgun, or 223/556 rounds they will see the lethal rounds are far more plentiful for shotguns.. Ranging from buckshot, buckshot and a slug in it, or flachette rounds (hundreds of darts or metal shavings/shrapnel in a round) to explosive ammo. Just to name a few I found in 2 min. of looking.. And with my tactical shotgun I have an extended tube with a speed loaders clipped to the side for 10 rounds in the tube and another 10 to go in it in seconds so in all reality at least in the real world they load just a quick or quicker....
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Good point. But you would not use buck shot to go duck hunting. You would use size 4-2 shot.
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This video proves that for home defense I'd rather have a "duck hunting shotgun" than any AR-15. How can any politician even begin to attempt passing legislature that takes guns out of the hands of American citizens, just baffling to me.
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Here's what I saw:
1 - "the rifle is more accurate". Really? How many bullets were in the red dot?
2 - "the shotgun is not as accurate." Really? It seemed that all shots were on target <b>except</b> the last one, and I strongly suspect that was a miss on purpose, because the other four shots were dead on.
I'm not getting into the buck/bird shot issue, but obviously, "duck" hunting with buckshot is a stupid statement. -
So many of you are missing the point on the gun comparison. The simple fact is that one blast from a shotgun loaded with 00buck (or a slug,) is far more lethal than one round from an AR15. Yet the idiot gun grabbing politicians don't have issue with the innocent looking duck hunting shotgun, and want to ban the scary looking so-called "assault rifle.". Also keep in mind that shotguns are available with high cap 16 round magazines that are quickly changed out too.
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#1 it is illegal to use buckshot duck hunting. And although buckshot is very effective dont even tell me its more dangerous than a AR. An AR shoots a .223. By far more penetrating power more speed and much larger bullet capacity than 4+ 1 shells in a shotgun. Not only to mention a .223 comes in all kinds of ballistics, hollow points and many more bullet options. Im not against guns I own well over 10. But dont try telling a damn AR is less lethal than a 1100 remington. Because its not. And in a rural environment what in the hell would you need with an AR15. Theyre target guns. A duck gun can be used for everything u damn well please and dont have to worry about the shot/bullet going miles through the woods
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Semi-auto rifles with 5 to 10 shot magazines are not being banned, not even in New York, not in Canada. The proposals are more cosmetic than anything else.
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I agree with you. I'm pro gun but not pro nut job. Bird Hunt nearly every day of the season and want my gun rights protected, but guys like this trying to pull the wool over our eyes give us a bad name. Making holes in paper is kind of an insult to anyone serious about ballistics. Kinetic Energy = Mass x (Velocity Squared) or E ∝ mv² . Plug some grains and speeds in then multiply by the number of rounds an AR can get off and it's not even close. Even greater discrepancy of more than 15 yds awar. Comparing the largest projectile a shotgun uses to the smallest one the AR uses is a joke. Last year Mills was demonstration the destruction a small fast AR round can make to a Gel Pac and now you can't find it on Utube. What an A-Hole.
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I think most can agree that the finer arguments put forth in the video aren't exactly airtight. However, I do believe that the larger picture idea that guns that don't have a military look are still very deadly is something that has to he taken seriously. AR-15s tend to come up as a red herring in every mass shooting and restricting them probably won't make anyone safer.