Farms: 2016 Tucson District Convention Part 1 Jehovah's Witness Conversation with Elder

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1. I bet King Solomon also thought he would  be faithful if he was around sinners, yet what
   happen to him? And it came to pass, as if it had been a light thing for him to
   walk in the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, that he took to wife Jezebel the
   daughter of Ethbaal king of the Zidonians, and went and served Baal, and worshipped
   him. 1Kings 16:30. The Elder did an excellent job.
2. Watchtower is completely hypocritical.   Prince was a Jehovah's Witness.  He was in the music industry, and I would love to see his  last  will  and testament, and see if he left any money to Watchtower.   A will is public information after a person dies.    Prince  was in far more of a wild environment then a conservatory.   He died from abusing  Fentanyl which is an  used as a heroine substitute.    I highly doubt Watchtower would not give back  any money if he left it to them.   Yet, they make a big dill out of a musical conservatory, and a child playing a violin.    When are you going to realize, that this is an organization of "successful psychopaths."   What the psychopath gets, is immediate gratification in the NOW.  He wants control over you NOW, he loves to create grief, and watch you squirm, which us what Watchtower does with all of its mind games.   One of the top ten professions "the successful psychopath s drawn to, is the clergy,   Control, psychological abuse, and tax free money.   He uses the Bible to  APPEAR righteous, but he could care less about being righteous.   He only wants to make you thing he IS righteous, so he can take advantage.  Some successful psychopaths know the Bible front and back.
3. so good
4. Awesome
5. Finally getting to watch this video. The elder really seems to not know what he's talking about. He's trying to sound smart but he's not
6. Keep going and help people...
7. 31% of all voting Americans still trust Hillary ......I bet its 32% among witnesses and trusting the G.B........they can do no wrong !.....that has got to change .
8. WT has set 'the rules of engagement' for war and I like the way you break them and fight back on YOUR terms. I wouldn't have the front to say things that are untrue to them though - my nose wobbles if I lie!!! We all have our own style of warfare.
   
   As someone who DID work in the music profession for decades there was a complete absence of drugs and hedonism - we all worked too hard and had to keep our bodies fit and disciplined. That elder going with tedious cliches and no sense of the real world. The worst behaviour I've seen is by clean cut people in business suits.
9. You really talked sense to that guy, well done GG!
10. The Elder says the young violin player was offered a job at a conservatory and it is at a conservatory that is all consuming and pushes out spiritual things.  I'm pretty sure that there was no mention of a conservatory although it did appear to be a special class (probably in his own school).  The boy seemed to be familiar with the class mate and the teacher, he was also there on his own. 
    
    But the video has been presented by the Society as official teachings and it is not their position to tell other Christians what choices they should be making in these matters.
11. That guy makes Jesus sound like he was only talking them to convert them. Jesus befriended everyone. Period.
12. Yes Watchtower started war with anybody who leaves their religion or even question. Yes they are very bold to destroy anybody who oppose them. That is why and it is the most proper thing to do to challenge them in court and ask specifically government to protect its own citizens against abusers and criminal acts of this organization. That is all what you can do to stop them.
    I am very sure they will be here in 20 year time and playing same game with other who will believe their game and causing problems within the society. Shalom.
13. Hey jwcrisis elders spin everything they cant come out and say they hate college or higher education you will never hear them say outright they hate those things . They speak in circles . Ric c is a perfect example he claims hes no longer an elder but he still acts like one . Telling everyone who can and cant be elder.
14. gilbert!!!! miss u buddy...its been a while and have been busy... promise to catch up with all my friends and videos
15. Great comment Gilbert and a very accurate statement. A war is fought when at least two parties, whether equally matched or not, try to inflict damage to their adversary. When one party tries to inflict damage while the other meekly and passively refrains to retaliate it's a massacre.
16. Hello Gilbert,
    
    Well done for what you have been doing, sir!
    
    The scripture in 1 Corinthians 15:33 was constantly used to check my ambitions.
    
    It is NOT inspired of God! It is a quotation from "Thais" by the Greek comic poet, Menander!
    
    Jesus associated with those who were conscious of their spiritual need. Those people were sinners of all kinds. The Pharasees were convinced of their works saving them, and rejected him.
    
    Keep up the good work, get some much needed sleep, and know that what you are doing is right.
    
    May the Lord bless you
    
    Peace be with you, Excelsior!
17. Gilbert : Why in the world would you want THIS Elder as your Elder ?? He is DOUBLE TONGUED and MILK TOAST just like many JW' s and Elders .
     He mentions that Prince was a Witness and yet comments on how bad and unsavory those people are in the music Industry ! Prince was one of them ! F------duh ! Why didn't you ask him why the organization issued a statement on what a great witness Prince was and lauded him on his spiritual relationship with Jehovah shortly after he died ? ( even though he was addicted to pain med's and overdosed on them and constantly was around bad association ) Or Prince having a huge party at his home with hundreds of bad association attending just a few days before he died ? ( common practice for Prince)
    
    Why didn't you question him on his Personal View about children taking lesson that contradicts what the WT says ? Why didn't you say, your view is in contrast to what the Governing Body teaches . Doesn't that make you a rebel or apostate ?
    He offers NO reasonable or valid explanation or has any answer to why the child cannot take violin lessons . He is only concerned with his position/image and not helping you.
    
    You were more concerned with getting your point across and so was he, rather than really listening and making him face the fact that his reasoning was twisted and he was merely a clone of mind control.
    Like MOST JW's today, because of the existing Governing Body, you can believe whatever you want to believe.
    Oh,...and my advice would be to ditch the hat so you appear more professional and believable. Not a dig, just a suggestion.
    I was a previous Elder for over 25 years and Presiding Overseer.
    
    
    
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18. Interesting to hear them defend that video. Sad that he equates education with bad association though. It's like every time they talk about a college degree they equate it with wanting to make a name for ourselves or to get rich quick. It's a diversion tactic to maintain mind control.
19. The WT is a two-face evil corporation. Compare Awake 7/09 p28 vs shunning policy. They deserve to be struck by the VAA heavy artillery, primo.
20. life is war ....the second you are pushed out ....they declared war on you ...why? ....it is their real ministry !....the body of elders must produce casualties to explain total failure ....your number is up !....soon .